
Joscha Bach meets with Ben Goertzel to discuss cognitive architectures, AGI, and conscious computers in another theolocution on TOE.. I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE. . – Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!). – Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE. – PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE. – Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt. – Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs. – iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802. – Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP. – Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e. – Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything. – TOE Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch. . LINKS MENTIONED:. – OpenCog (Ben’s Ai company): https://opencog.org. – SingularityNET (Ben’s Decentralized Ai company): https://singularitynet.io. – Podcast w/ Joscha Bach on TOE: https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI. – Podcast w/ Ben Goertzel on TOE: https://youtu.be/27zHyw_oHSI. – Podcast w/ Michael Levin and Joscha on TOE: https://youtu.be/kgMFnfB5E_A. – Podcast w/ John Vervaeke and Joscha on TOE: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4. – Podcast w/ Donald Hoffman and Joscha on TOE: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww. – Mindfest Playlist on TOE (Ai and Consciousness): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ7ikzmc6zlOPw7Hqkc6-MXEMBy0fnZcb. . TIMESTAMPS:. – 00:00:00 Introduction. – 00:02:23 Computation vs Awareness. – 00:06:11 The paradox of language and self-contradiction. – 00:10:05 The metaphysical categories of Charles Peirce. – 00:13:00 Zen Buddhism’s category of zero . – 00:14:18 Carl Jung’s interpretation of four. – 00:21:22 Language as “representation”. – 00:28:48 Computational reality vs AGI. – 00:33:06 Consciousness in particles. – 00:44:18 Anesthesia and consciousness: Joscha’s personal perspective. – 00:54:36 Levels of consciousness levels (panpsychism vs functionalism). – 00:56:23 Deep neural nets u0026 LLMs as steps backward from AGI?. – 01:05:04 Emergent properties of LLMs. – 01:12:26 Turing-completeness and its implications. – 01:15:08 OpenAI’s bold claims challenged. – 01:24:24 Future of AGI. – 01:31:58 Intelligent species after human extinction. – 01:36:33 Emergence of a cosmic mind. – 01:43:56 The timeline to AGI development. – 01:52:16 The physics of immortality. – 01:54:00 Critique of Integrated Information Theory (pseudoscience?)

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