Carson Gross creator Of Htmx Reflects On Hypermedia Systems

In this episode, Carson Gross joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Hypermedia Systems Join them as Carson reflects on the process of publishing the book, the development of HTMX, and how to deal with setbacks!. . John Ousterhout and Bob Martin Conversation. https://github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-code. . Fixi.js (a new project from Carson Gross). https://github.com/bigskysoftware/fixi. . Triptych – New Attributes for HTML. https://github.com/alexpetros/triptych. . HTMX. https://htmx.org/. . — Books Mentioned in this Episode –. Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.. ———————————————————-. . Hypermedia Systems. https://amzn.to/4iou43T (Paid Link). . Philosophy of Software Design by John Ousterhout. https://amzn.to/4bEVMHp (Paid Link). . The Master and Margarita: 50th-Anniversary Edition by Mikhail Bulgakov. https://amzn.to/3R1pzR3 (Paid Link). . Worse is Better (essay). https://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html. . No Silver Bullet. https://worrydream.com/refs/Brooks_1986_-_No_Silver_Bullet.pdf. . —————-. . 00:00 Intro. 01:47 What Inspired you to write Hypermedia Systems?. 07:37 Challenging Assumptions, Hypermedia, Javascript, and Worse is Better. 13:51 Roy Fielding, REST, HATEOAS and mispronouncing things.. 16:15 What is the most surprising outcome of writing Hypermedia Systems?. 19:42 Creating fixi.js. 28:32 Discussing Progressive Enhancement, Triptych, and Browser Standards. 35:40 Dealing with Setbacks and Success. 41:01 No Silver Bullet, and the Ousterhout and Martin debate. 50:00 What if No HTMX? Hypercard. 56:11 Tool chains, debuggers, and developer expectations. 01:01:29 Final Thoughts. . . . —. Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ZwS2fqW7ZZ . Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325. X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod. Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan. Nathan’s newsletter https://rojoroboto.com/newletter. —. . Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!. . The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io